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May 2007 Edition

 

 

 

Civil Society News
New Delhi

YOHEI Sasakawa has never really had a problem making money. He inherited a lot and built on it with dedication till he was in his forties. But what worries him a great deal is how money should be spent. How it should be put to its best possible use. It won’t do to just give it way and there is no point leaving money behind when one dies. So, spending money for him is a key managerial challenge. There is a need to define the dynamics of trusteeship. Students of the Harvard Business School go to him to learn just this so that when they graduate to the world of big business they can reinvent bottom lines. Sasakawa has cut his own path. As a relentless champion of the rights of people with leprosy, he has straddled the world working particularly in India to put an end to the needless stigma associated with a wholly curable disease. It is a cause pursued doggedly because it is important to be “consistent and patient”, he told us in New Delhi. From identifying camps where leprosy people live ghettoized in fear, to holding a National Forum for them to articulate their concerns and aspirations, Sasakawa has shown that it is possible to turn deepseated rejection into acceptance. Sasakawa, who is chairman of the Nippon Foundation and the WHO Goodwill Ambassador for Leprosy Elimination,recently received the International Gandhi Award for 2006 at Wardha in Gujarat. Here are excerpts from a long and inspiring conversation with him:


What is the Indian arm of your foundation doing right now?

We are showing the true self of our foundation. We are providing full disclosure, including financial. Many NGOs fail in transparency. They believe they are doing good for society so they are not precise about numbers. But the money received is public money so we have to disclose how it’s spent. Transparency is important because I plan to visit Indian companies and ask them to support our foundation’s work. Secondly we are highlighting the human aspect of leprosy and establishing its links with civil society. We want a free exchange of information with NGOs and organisations so that we can break down barriers between our foundation (which is working only on leprosy) and other NGOs working on other issues. It is necessary to create tools for integration. Initially people with leprosy were very afraid to raise their voices, believing they would be targeted. They thought they had no choice but to live in silence. The situation is changing. The National Forum meeting, for instance, has made a difference. Our National Forum wanted to have its meeting at the YWCA. Although we paid in advance we were rejected and stopped from staying there. But the fact that we could come together and hold such a meeting against such odds showed that it is possible to speak out and have an identity. The Global Appeal is similarly significant. When world endorse the appeal people with leprosy realise that they are not alone. Cured people are raising their voices. In the National Forum we are stressing that self-help is very important. It is necessary to be independent.

What does Mahatma Gandhi mean to you?

I have read Mahatma Gandhi’s autobiography and tried to use it in my life. One lesson is to be patientand consistent. Once I start a job I should not change my angle or direction. I may not be able to make changes but if I am relentless society will respond to make changes. I agree today globalisation is more like collateral damage. The strong are getting stronger notion is taking over. This is unfortunate. Business has become a game. Money is business. But money should not be the final goal. How to use it as a tool for your life is what is important. I see lots of people making money. It seems to be their only goal. A group of 30 students from Harvard Business School visited me. They are taught how to make money, but not how to use that money. Okay, if you have an MBA from Harvard you get to own a beach house, a good car and so on.

But what else do you do with that money? How do you integrate it into society?

Actually, it is a great deal harder to spend money than to make it. Many Indian companies have CSR programmes. But they are mostly window-dressing. What is it like in Japan? We are investigating the work Japanese companies are doing and ranking them on the stock exchange. You can see all their rankings. Soon consumers will begin checking them out and the companies will have reason to worry. The situation in Japan is the same as in India. There is a lot of window- dressing and it is all very flashy. But I think it will finally point us inthe right direction. Well, at least something gets done.Tell us how it is possible to integrate people with leprosy with the rest of society and include them in the common spaces that are available. People afflicted with TB and other diseases get integrated. But not those withleprosy. Currently we have identified around 7,000 colonies and established a database to understand each colony. It is true they are segregated and they have their own autonomy I would respect their autonomous status by giving them micro credit and radically improve their colonies. Raising their living standards and upgrading the colonies would help the process of integration. Colonies survive by begging. It is really sad. Many of them have the passion and intelligence to work but they don’t have the opportunities. They can drive auto-rickshaws, work in several sectors but the opportunities have to be there. It is also true that the people with leprosy feel safer in colonies and have peace of mind living there. The colonies have a long history. The autonomy system in colonies is important. When people get too old to beg others go and earn and provide food for them. We want to improve their living standards so they can successfully work out of their colonies.

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